Had a great time chatting with my old friend Elias Crim

…and his buddy Pete at their podcast “Dorothy’s Place” (named for Dorothy Day). We discussed my Mea Maxima Culpa piece right on this here blog, as well as The Church’s Best-Kept Secret and some possible ways forward for the Church as the catastrophic tide of MAGA Catholicism recedes in the US. We also had a lot of fun! Give it a listen! A good cleanser on the eve of this very important Inauguration: