Friends don’t let friends do cleverdumb theology

Oh, for Pete’s sake:

To begin with, stillborns are, if it is at all possible, conditionally baptized when there is any question at all about whether they are still alive. When death is absolutely established, stillborn babies, like 80 year old dead men who perish from a heart attack before they can approach the font, are not baptized because they are dead, not because they are not human beings. Catholics do not baptize the dead, regardless of their age. And baptism is, in any case, not designed as a reducing valve to keep the unbaptized out of Heaven, but as a sure (but not the only) encounter with God. That is why the extremely unbaptized Good Thief made it to heaven, as we are told by the Highest Possible Authority on the Matter.

This among other things, I why a funeral Mass for unbaptized or stillborn children is not only permissible but positively encouraged by the Church, not only because grieving parents are consoled by it, but because we believe that the prayers of the body of Christ for the dead help them on their way to union with God and are part of their beatitude.

Baptism does not confer humanity on children. Human beings are due human dignity from the moment of conception.

Attention anti-Catholic Fundamentalists (whether Protestant or unbelieving): For the love of God, stop saying dumb things just to score imaginary points and create Unit Cohesion with your equally ignorant peers. If you want to argue with the Church (or indeed with anybody) you have to argue on their terms and not your own. You can’t just march up to people, tell them they think X, and then declare them wrong. Because when it turns out they think Y and think X is ridiculous, you have only shown yourself to be a fool. And if you go on saying they think X when they tell you, “No. I don’t” you are thereafter not merely a fool, but a liar.

By the way, the Church, like the entire scientific community, does not believe “Life begins at conception”. Life began about 4 billion years ago and all living things come from other living things. Both the sperm and egg that went on to become you were themselves already alive. What the Catholic tradition actually teaches, as the sciences do as well, is that a unique organism comes into existence at conception. As Secular Pro-Life says: “For the Embryology Textbook tells me so”.

As to the metaphysics that go beyond mere biology, the Church, while never formulating a dogma about the start of personhood, has always insisted that the Incarnation of the Son of God took place at conception and that he shares fully in our human life. This, of course, makes the Church’s position on abortion dependent on revelation, not on mere scientific observation. But at the very least, it is rubbish to say that she does not really see the human person as sacred from conception. Here, as in the rest of her teaching, she looks to the person of Christ as the key to understanding the human person.

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5 Responses

  1. If God is merciful and just, and I think he is, then God will be merciful and welcoming to the stillborn baby. Why would he not?

  2. I’ve seen this meme before and it’s idiotic. But I’m curious what was blacked out for that nonsense about “never took a breath.” Not curious enough to waste time looking it up, mind you.

    I do kinda feel like you’re equivocating on the definition of “life” in “life begins at conception” though: I thought it was kinda obvious that it meant “the life of this individual” and not “all life everywhere began when this one person was conceived, despite the fact that this person’s parents were also already alive and presumably had been for several months.” Not that it makes much of a difference, but still.

    1. Reverse image search does wonders. I’ll post a link to the picture in my next comment as it’s external and I expect it to be blocked.
      In a narrower font, it said:
      “Not only will they not baptize the baby, they WILL NOT allow the baby to have a funeral mass.
      The reasons [sic!] is that the baby never took a breath.”

      1. Thanks! So whoever did the edit job actually improved it, if only marginally.

        I think I’ve seen that unedited version, now that you mention it. It (or maybe this one) was one of the things that prompted that bad abortion arguments post I wrote a while back. (Might drop a link if anyone wants it.) Guidance from the Archdiocese of Boston (which Mark linked from an older post on the subject) actually directly addresses the claim by saying (albeit more politely than I’m about to) that they’re supposed to have funerals but some priests are bad at their jobs.

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